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These threads are usually accompanied by either a fake history of the vehicle, or the user saying something along the lines of "I just found this, there isn't much about it, isn't it cool?". While writing Der Panzerkampfwagen Panther und Seine Abarten, Walter Spielberger encountered a report dated from February 10th, 1943, stating that experience on the Eastern Front had shown that the Panther did not have sufficiently thick side armor. Unfortunately, WarGaming's representation of the tank is where it all falls apart. After the war, the prototype was shipped to the United Kingdom for trials, but was later scrapped. Nice!! DANS LE MEME RAYON. Embed Image. The E-79 is probably one of the oldest and most known fake tanks. Ce système aurait cependant nécessité un remaniement complet du châssis et le projet n’alla pas plus loin que la planche à dessin[7]. Ce changement permettait de maximiser l’espace disponible à l’intérieur du char, les suspensions étant désormais placées à l’extérieur. Possibly it stands for "Schnellkannone". A háború végére csupán egy harckocsialváz készült el, az is csak részlegesen. Articles similaires. Je me permets de remettre les photos du Henschel de CHAZELAS ex-FRANCKY79 publiées sur l'ancien forum. Under VK72.01 I attributed its origin to the Russian historian Yuri Pasholok. I (the author) try to keep personal opinions out of articles on Panzerpedia and only present the facts, however for this vehicle I feel compelled to make an exception. Embed. Vehicles by Sonderkraftfahrzeug (Sd.Kfz.) Les chenilles, entrainées par les barbotins situés à l’avant, faisaient un mètre de large et devaient être remplacées par un modèle plus étroit pour le transport par train, afin de ne pas dépasser des plateformes[9]. The twinguns should be integrated in a turret. The placement of the casemate is the main problem with the Krokodil; the E-100's suspension could not have handled the weight of all that armor plus a 15cm (or 17cm!) The Panzerkampfwagen E-100 (Gerät 383) (TG-01) was a German super-heavy tank design developed towards the end of World War II. Avoid dogfighting as most faster tanks can flank you. The confusion probably came from the fact that the StuH 42 and StuG III were nearly identical, except for the fact that the Sturmhaubitze had a 10,5cm gun, not a 7,5cm; so when US Intelligence got their hands on photos of StuG IIIs with longer guns than the early 7,5cm KwK 37 L/24, and shorter than the later 7,5cm KwK 40 L/43, they put two and two together and guestimated this was a interim gun, 87 inches long (7,5cm x L/30 = ~87 inches). Lors du développement du Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus, deux firmes, Porsche et Krupp, furent mises en concurrence. Camion henschel d’occasion. Un projet B fut donc envisagé pour améliorer la mobilité, avec un moteur Maybach de 1 200 ch et une transmission hydromécanique Mekydro à huit vitesses, ce qui aurait pu permettre d’atteindre la vitesse de 40 km/h. The Fake Tanks page was one of the first pages on Panzerpedia, and still remains the most popular to this day. Le Panzerkampfwagen E-100 est un projet de char super-lourd mené par l’Allemagne pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale, issu du développement du Maus et faisant partie du programme des Entwicklungsserie, visant à développer des chars standardisés. Mr. Stauffer also correctly identifies the vehicles in question as early StuH 42s. In the subsequent May issue of AFV News (Volume 13, Number 3), reader Richard C. Harley of Scotland wrote in to express his doubt about the assumptions made in the article. Flakpanzer E-100 / Universalabwehrkampfwagen E-100UA Alligator. Orginally, instead of in depth histories of the origins of these fake vehicles, there were only single sentences to summarize each entry. Le E-100 est un char lourd de 138 tonnes issu du projet de la nouvelle standardisation des blindés de combat allemands de la Panzerwaffe durant la Seconde Guerre mondiale. id like it very much, because it remember me the older brother of the e-75. The company's factories were among the most important bomber targets a… Further perpetuating this myth, Trumpeter released a 1:35th scale model of the E-100 Ausf.B in 2008, calling it plainly "E-100". Sign in or join with: Only registered members can share … Comme tous les char super-lourds conçus pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale, la masse et les dimensions de l’E-100 posaient des problèmes insolubles : à l’échelle stratégique il était difficile à déplacer sur de longues distances, même par train, et son usage à l’échelle tactique était compliqué par l’impossibilité de traverser la plupart des ponts et les rues étroites des agglomérations, ainsi que par la nécessité d’éviter toutes les zones où le terrain était meuble. While a similar vehicle was proposed in the last days of the War (Panzer-Aufklärer auf E-25), the E-10 Leopard is not based in reality. He theorizes that there may have been confusion between the StuG III and the Sturm-Infanterigeschütz 33B. He goes on to question why the original Ordnance document describes the gun as a sturmkannone with an L/30 barrel length, while von Senger und Etterlin describes it as a kampfwagenkannone with a length of L/33. Le moteur installé sur le prototype de l’E-100 était le Maybach HL 230 P30, dont la puissance était de 600 ch à 2 500 rpm et 700 ch à 3 000 rpm. Photo d'une utilisation rarissime de la Henschel: en double traction avec une 030 en 2002. In what he claims is "historical extrapolation", Nast says had the War continued, this vehicle would have hit the battlefields in 1947. In 2017 Trumpter released a retooled version of the model, now including the correct Maus II turret. Plaque Henschel HS 100. Late in the war there was a proposal made for a heavy assault gun based on either the E-100 or Maus. Variantes du nom de famille. Bien que responsable de l’assemblage de l’E-100 en sa qualité de directeur technique de Adler, Karl Jenschke considéra dès le début la conception du véhicule comme étant obsolète : le véhicule était peu mobile par ses propres moyens et son transport par rail exigeait de démonter les jupes, les chenilles et une partie des roues de route. A prototype of the turret had been build until January 1945.". La transmission était le modèle OG 40 12 16 B de Maybach, tandis que la direction était électrique et fabriqué par Henschel sous la désignation L 801. À l’origine, le E-100 devait être équipé de l’une des tourelles prévue pour le projet Maus. Cette situation est à mettre en relation avec les nouvelles directives émises par Hitler en juillet 1944, stipulant que tout développement de char super-lourd devait cesser[4]. La 020T Henschel au dépôt du CFTR en 2008. In reality, Henschel didn't design turrets. Cost efficiency, high availability, durability and easy servicing. Date de baptême: inconnu mais avant 1939. Henschel stands for high operational safety, because we develop and produce everything in-house – a crucial factor in meeting our aspirations." This snippet from his book "Special Panzer Variants" was circulated to back up WarGaming's claim. Jugeant Krupp trop fortement sollicité sur d’autres projets, Kniepkamp préféra confier la finalisation de l’E-100 à Adler au printemps 1943, bien que la firme n’avait aucune expérience dans la conception de chars[2]. In reality the Panther II was cancelled in 1943, since its major improvement - thicker side armor to defeat Russian AT rifles - was rendered redundant with the introduction of Schürzen. Trumpeter's source and motivation for making the design are unknown. "Aureole" is a French word meaning "halo". These tanks were never designed, by Germany at least; they have been made up by modeling companies, video game companies, or as kitbashes, etc. They used the wooden mockup as a basis for their model and assigned it arbitrary armor statistics in order to make it competitive for their game. Reply Good karma Bad karma +1 vote. Unfortunately this 'flagship of fakery' lives on; showing just how undying false information can be. E 100 henschel Turret request - posted in Tank Skins: hi every one, is first time i write on this forum.im alberto, and on Wot since ive obtained the E100 i run the tank with the mod urban fighter with the henschel turret. Share Image. Camion Toupie HENSCHEL HS 100; Camion Toupie HENSCHEL HS 100. At this point the story of this fake should end; unfortunately there is more. e-100 Avec l’évolution du conflit, le haut commandement de la Wehrmacht étudie une possibilité de refonte complète de l’arme blindée allemande. The most ridiculous thing about the Aureole's is that they were powered by twin jet turbines that shot flames out of the back. For whatever reason, while similar fakes like the E-79 and E-90 are generally recognized as fake, many people still believe the Krokodile was real. Achetez Henschel HS 100 camion-citerne, BP, 0, voiture miniature, Miniature déjà montée, Wiking / PMS 1:87 : Modèles à l'échelle : Amazon.fr Livraison gratuite possible dès 25€ Share URL. Why they used the fictional Henschel turret is unclear. By the end of the war, a single prototype chassis of the E-100 had been produced, and it was only partially completed. Due to the E-25's compact form, any gun bigger than the 7,5cm PaK 42 L/70 it was supposed to be armed with would almost certainly not have been able to fit into the tank. Adler commença le travail sur l’E-100 le 30 juin 1943 ; la phase de conception fut rapidement terminée, les plans originaux du « Tiger-Maus » étant repris presque à l’identique, à l’exception de la suspension[3]. RSS E-100 Henschel (view original) embed. Votre expérience sur notre site est une priorité. Poids : 400 g. Ref T14. The Panther chassis was used for the Gerät 58 because of its size and therefore ability to carry the weapon, not for its armor. L'orthographe des noms de famille a parfois évolué au cours des siècles. Both had a Jagdpanther-style forward mounted casemate. Sd.Kfz. Had the E-100 been completed, it would've carried a Maus V2 or Maus II Turm. A szövetséges győzelem után az Egyesült Királyságba szállították az alvázat, de később szétszerelték. La suspension était le seul élément différenciant notablement le Tiger-Maus de Krupp de l’E-100 de Adler : alors que le premier employait la même suspension à barres de torsion que le Königstiger, le second faisait appel à des ressorts hélicoïdaux[8]. Cette refonte, basée sur une restructuration des unités, devait s’opérer avec la mise en dotation des nouveaux blindés de la série E. Cette nouvelle organisation devait commencer à entrer en vigueur à partir de 1946. It is a slightly scaled-down E-100 with a turret similar to the "E-100 Adler Turret" (also a fake: see a few entries down) presented as a "lighter alternative to the E-100. Tracteur d'occasion à vendre sur Truckscorner. Originally made up by a Mr. Sebastian Nast, the E-90 has since passed into infamy among tank aficionados. - E-100 Henschel - 3D model by Giganaut (@madmailbox) [1e603c0] Poids: 0.3 kg: Avis Il n’y a pas encore d’avis. ", The E-90, probably the oldest of Nast's creations, has taken on a life of its own on the internet since its inception. Réf. It is possible, had the War continued and the Gerät 58 and E-50 been produced, that they would have been combined into a "Flakpanzer E-50" as the Panther was phased out of production; but that is just conjecture. Henschel was the sole manufacturer of the Tiger I and Tiger II. Information and pictures obtained from several sites. Sturmgeschütz III with 7,5cm StuG lg.K. La dernière modification de cette page a été faite le 6 octobre 2020 à 06:57. The new version of the kit has the casemate at the rear, and even seems to include the correct gun mounting - the only surviving piece of design for the original Sturmgeschütz E-100/Maus. Now I am not saying this here because I have hurt feelings, I have been called much worse and frankly don't care what people call me; I am including this here so people may know that this is how WarGaming employees and Yuri Pasholok himself operate. In 2016 Trumpter debuted a 1:72nd scale model of the Krokodile. AJOUTER UNE ALERTE; DESCRIPTIF. En effet, celui-ci, dit « Tiger-Maus », avait la particularité de partager un maximum de composants avec le char Tigre, ce qui intéressait Heinrich Ernst Kniepkamp pour son projet d’Entwicklung-serien (« séries de développement »), une série de véhicules de combat classés par poids partageant un maximum de composants dans le but de réduire les coûts de production et de faciliter la maintenance et la logistique[1],[2]. C’est simple : Cherchez, Cliquez, Trouvez ! The caption at the bottom of the picture, "The development of a 100-ton tank by the Krupp firm led first of all to the building of a wooden mockup of the VK72.01." Henschel produced tank hulls while Porsche and Krupp made turrets. L’échec du projet de l’E-100 est symptomatique du destin des chars super-lourds de la Seconde Guerre mondiale, qui posaient beaucoup de problèmes, notamment logistiques, pour un impact somme toute minimal sur le déroulement des combats. Le Waffenamt ne semble toutefois pas avoir été entièrement satisfait par cette proposition, car à la fin du même mois, Krupp fut sollicité pour réaliser une maquette en bois à l’échelle 1:5 d’une nouvelle tourelle ayant comme armement soit un canon de 15 cm soit de 17 cm, afin d’étudier quelles étaient les possibilités en matière de disposition intérieure dans ces configurations[4]. 251/16 (semi-chenillé lance-flammes), 15cm sIG 33 (Sf) PzKpfw IB (Sturmpanzer I Bison), 15cm sIG 33 (Sf) PzKpfw II (Sturmpanzer II Bison), Panzerwerfer 42 (Semi-chenillé lance-roquettes), Wurfrahmen 40 (Semi-chenillé lance-roquettes), https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Panzerkampfwagen_E-100&oldid=175330223, Char allemand de la Seconde Guerre mondiale, Catégorie Commons avec lien local identique sur Wikidata, Portail:Seconde Guerre mondiale/Articles liés, Portail:Époque contemporaine/Articles liés, licence Creative Commons attribution, partage dans les mêmes conditions, comment citer les auteurs et mentionner la licence, 6 (chef de char, pilote, radio-mitrailleur, tireur et deux chargeur). Description Informations complémentaires Avis (0) Plaque en tôle sérigraphiée bombée et emboutie, 4 trous. 1 en stock. Fabricant : WIKING Marque : HENSCHEL. Soon enough, a story emerged on the internet saying that this was a seperate turret designed by Henschel that would've gone on the E-100 when it was finished. Henschel - Achetez une variété de produits à prix abordables sur eBay. Nounours51 a écrit:Salut les amis je presume que francky79 veut mettre les photos de sont hanomag henschel alors le voici! It is oxymoronic! In reality the Gerät 58 was projected to be mounted on the Panther chassis. modber Apr 6 2013. Panzerpedia Wiki is a FANDOM Lifestyle Community. Avec 200 mm de blindage homogène laminé incliné à 60° à l’avant, l’E-100 était aussi bien blindé que le Maus de face, en revanche son blindage latéral était sensiblement inférieur, en particulier au niveau de la tourelle : 80 mm incliné à 29° sur l’E-100 contre 200 mm incliné à 30° sur le Maus[10]. This further led to the Panther II erroneously being linked with the Schmalturm turret (1944), and the Schmalturm mit 8,8cm KwK 43 L/71 (1945). Enregistrez-vous pour être averti quand le produit sera de nouveau disponible. 13,50 € Définitivement épuisé. 26,20 € 27 octobre 2020. However even those who do not have a great interest in the history of vehicles they model or play now recognize the E-79 as fake, and know its real story. The excerpt from Special Panzer Variants. Décédé le 22 mars 2003. This mistake was further perpetuated in when author Steve Clayton wrote a piece for AFV News magazine, Volume 13, Number 2, from March 1978, detailing the discovery of a supposed "StuG III Ausf.L/33". Henschel Créée en 1947, la marque américaine Henschel est un leader sur le marché des chapeaux avec des coupes pork pie , cowboy et casquettes . À titre de comparaison, sur le front de l’Est, le canon D-25T de l’IS-2 pouvait pénétrer 142 mm à 1 000 m[11]. Plus de 0 annonces de Poids lourds disponibles. The company's factories were among the most important bomber targets and were … Instead the Leopard was dropped and the Aufklärungspanzer V Panther took its place as the Wehrmacht's future scout tank. Celle-ci était presque identique à celle du Maus II, à ceci près que son blindage était moins épais, d’où une masse plus faible. Le châssis fut plus tard complété sur place par les Britanniques afin de le mettre en état de marche, puis envoyé au Royaume-Uni pour être testé, avant d’être ferraillé. UGS : T14 Catégories : Décoration, Décoration extérieure. However this acknowledgement is not included on the page for the 1:72nd scale version, which is still in production as of 2017. A4 de 15 pages - 1 masquage gratuit was when Trumpeter came out with a 380mm mortar like Löwe! For their game the vehicle as a StuH 42 Ausf.F without a muzzle break 380mm mortar like Löwe. 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